Hell is a subject generally avoided in polite conversation these days, but it is a subject the Qur'an talks about a great deal. The torments of Hell are described in graphic detail in over 500 places, throughout the Qur'an. Here are just a few verses:
"Boiling fluid will be poured down on to their heads; it will melt their stomachs and skins. For them will be hooked rods of iron Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, they shall be dragged back..." (22:19-23)
"A Fire which will encompass them like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: they will cry out for help but will be granted scorching water like melted brass, that will melt their faces" (18:28-30)
"Dragged through scalding fetid fluid and burnt in the Fire." (40: 70-72)
"As often as their skins are roasted off We shall exchange them for fresh skins" (4:56)
"No food except pus" (69:36)
"The tree of Zaqqum… Like molten brass it will boil in their intestines. Like the scalding of searing water. (It will be said) "Seize him and drag him into the midst of the Blazing Fire! Then pour over his head the torment of scorching Water" (44:43-48)
"They will be given boiling water to drink so that it tears their bowels to pieces" (47:15)
"Never will it be eased off them nor will they be given respite" (3:88)
Never will they get out. (5:37)
Hell for all eternity (4:169)
There are Muslims who take these descriptions literally. They say Hell is a real place and the descriptions in the Qur'an are literally true.
There are other Muslims who say that these descriptions are metaphorical. They symbolise a state of being outside our knowledge and experience.
The first view that God will literally torture unbelievers, keeping them alive & replacing their skins over and over again so they are forced to suffer the most unbearable pain for all eternity, not only goes against all reason, it makes a mockery of the oft-repeated prefix: بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم "In the Name of God the Most Merciful the Most Compassionate." No amount of creative reasoning can ever square eternal torture with even a small amount of mercy, let alone with: "The Most Merciful of those who show Mercy." ارحم الراحمين
As for the second view, that Hell is metaphorical, this is no different to the first view. It always puzzles me why some Muslims think if it is a metaphor, then that changes its meaning to something reasonable & acceptable. A metaphor means describing something using imagery that reflects that which is being described and aids our understanding of it. If one uses graphically grotesque endless torture as a metaphor, it obviously means unimaginable suffering & agony. It cannot mean something benign. So whether unbelievers are to be literally burnt forever or it's a metaphor for some other inconceivable torment - the result it is exactly the same: A punishment that will cause unimaginable suffering & the most extreme pain possible whether it be physical or spiritual.
My own view is that Hell is a myth.
I'm not saying there are no consequences for our actions, but only that Hell as described in the Qur'an - whether literal or metaphorical - is a fiction.
At best it can perhaps be understood as a type of cautionary tale much like 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf' or 'Little Suck-a-Thumb' who had his fingers chopped off by the Great Tall Tailor and other such stories aimed at frightening children into behaving.
Of course no adult really believes little boys who play practical jokes should be fed to wolves nor children who suck thumbs should have their fingers amputated. But they do serve a purpose. Playing on human fears has always been an effective way to get people to do what you want.
The problem with cautionary tales however, is they need to be believed in order to be effective! Once they're no-longer believable they lose their power. Eternal torture may have been a plausible concept once upon a time, but today it has become an embarrassment for most rational-minded believers.
Apart from its irrational aspects, using fear of torture is a terrible way to teach morality & good behaviour. Not only can it be psychologically damaging, but it may have the opposite effect, i.e. a person brought up to behave through fear may feel no compunction about doing wrong in the absence of fear. They will also be more likely to use fear & threats of violence themselves, in order achieve what they want. As Thomas Pain said: "Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man."
It is without doubt far better to teach using reason, compassion, patience & good example. In this way people will behave in a moral & ethical manner because they truly believe it is the right thing to do, rather than out of fear of being tortured.
There may have been a time when treating humans like children - like; 'Little Suck-a-Thumb' - was expedient, but as the saying of Rabia al-Adawiya (the 8th Century Sufi saint) reveals:
even then, there were those expressing the view that the human race should aspire to higher ideals and motives of love & compassion, rather than being herded by a stick & carrot.
The problem with cautionary tales however, is they need to be believed in order to be effective! Once they're no-longer believable they lose their power. Eternal torture may have been a plausible concept once upon a time, but today it has become an embarrassment for most rational-minded believers.
Apart from its irrational aspects, using fear of torture is a terrible way to teach morality & good behaviour. Not only can it be psychologically damaging, but it may have the opposite effect, i.e. a person brought up to behave through fear may feel no compunction about doing wrong in the absence of fear. They will also be more likely to use fear & threats of violence themselves, in order achieve what they want. As Thomas Pain said: "Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man."
It is without doubt far better to teach using reason, compassion, patience & good example. In this way people will behave in a moral & ethical manner because they truly believe it is the right thing to do, rather than out of fear of being tortured.
There may have been a time when treating humans like children - like; 'Little Suck-a-Thumb' - was expedient, but as the saying of Rabia al-Adawiya (the 8th Century Sufi saint) reveals:
"I wish to set fire to Paradise and pour water on the flames of Hell,"
You might say; but isn't the Qur'an revealed by God? So how can Hell be a myth?
Firstly I would say there is nothing wrong with myths. Myths have always been an important way humans have sought to convey ideas & explain the world.
Secondly, yes I believe Muhammad was inspired but I also believe this inspiration came through his own mind and being. It was he who interpreted this inspiration according to his time, culture and personality. It was he who composed the words and phrased the sentences.
The Qur'an may be divinely inspired, but it is human authored! Not only that but language is a human creation and it is flawed. Even when expressing human ideas we can see how inadequate language can be when it leads to endless misunderstandings between us. How much more inadequate is it to express transcendental ideas!?
The Qur'an is inextricably linked to it's context and environment and most important of all, it is fallible - not infallible! This means that while the Qur'an can be a source of inspiration - we should not feel bound by that which does not stand up to close scrutiny. God demands we think for ourselves and constantly re-evaluate according to our own context and environment. We must apply our own mind to the Qur'an rather than abdicate our responsibility to others.
I don't think it is possible for us to ever understand the process of revelation by which Muhammad received the Qur'an. But here's an analogy I think might help:
Imagine a blind man sitting in front of you. He was blind from birth. You want to describe the colour red to him. How will you do it? What will you say to him? Remember he has been totally blind from birth. What words or images can you put into his mind that will convey the colour red to him? You might say it's impossible because he lacks the sense of sight. But you can communicate with him through his other senses. You could give him a red rose and tell him, this is what red smells like. Or give him a red ruby and tell him, this is what red feels like. Or you could let him taste a pomegranate and say this is what red tastes like. Or you could tap a red drum and say this is what red sounds like. In each case you are doing the best you can to communicate the colour red in the only way he can understand. Yet his limitations means that what he understands and articulates will inevitably be very wide of the mark. If that wasn't enough, whatever he says to others will be framed according to the limitations of his time and context.
Imagine a blind man sitting in front of you. He was blind from birth. You want to describe the colour red to him. How will you do it? What will you say to him? Remember he has been totally blind from birth. What words or images can you put into his mind that will convey the colour red to him? You might say it's impossible because he lacks the sense of sight. But you can communicate with him through his other senses. You could give him a red rose and tell him, this is what red smells like. Or give him a red ruby and tell him, this is what red feels like. Or you could let him taste a pomegranate and say this is what red tastes like. Or you could tap a red drum and say this is what red sounds like. In each case you are doing the best you can to communicate the colour red in the only way he can understand. Yet his limitations means that what he understands and articulates will inevitably be very wide of the mark. If that wasn't enough, whatever he says to others will be framed according to the limitations of his time and context.
I can only dimly guess at the original inspiration that Muhammad experienced in this instance. Perhaps it was connected to the idea that actions have consequences. But I don't need to guess at the influences that led Muhammad to phrase that inspiration in the way he did, because Hell as described in the Qur'an is clearly an amalgamation of ideas current at Muhammad's time. It would have been perfectly natural for him to interpret inspiration about actions and consequences in this way.
The view of Hell current in Muhammad's time evolved from the various religions in the Middle East. It is interesting to note that early Judaism originally had no concept of Hell nor an afterlife. The concept of an afterlife was introduced by later rabbinical writers during the Hellenic period borrowing from neighbouring pagan religions. The Old Testament itself speaks only of 'Sheol' which meant 'grave' and it had a neutral connotation. A gloomy place of almost non-existence that everyone goes to - good or bad.
It wasn't until Christianity that a doctrine of Hell as a place of punishment for unbelievers begins to develop. One of the words translated as Hell in the New Testament is Gehenna which is the Greek version of the Hebrew word Gehinnom, (where the Qur'anic word Jahannam comes from.)
Gehinnom literally means "The Valley of (the sons of) Hinnom." It was a real place - a valley outside the walls of Jerusalem which had been used by pagans for child sacrifice. In fact Gehinnom still exists and is now a park in greater Jerusalem.
At the time of Jesus this place was deemed unholy and used to burn not only rubbish from the city, but also the dead bodies of criminals & animal carcasses. Continual fires were necessary to keep down the stench and putrefaction. The audience at the time Jesus would have immediately understood his metaphorical reference to Gehinnom in the Gospel of Matthew (23:33) when Jesus criticised the scribes & Pharisees saying:
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| This is Gehinnom: "The Valley of Hinnom" |
"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of Gehenna?"
It is clear from the New Testament that Hell was not originally regarded as eternal. All mentions of hell by Jesus in the Gospels and in the Book of Revelations indicate that the unbelievers will be burned and destroyed and their torments will not last forever.
The idea of Hell as 'eternal' developed later as Christians were persecuted by the Romans. Feeling powerless, the Christian church fathers turned to elaborate fantasies of Hell that awaited their pagan oppressors, in order to console & reassure themselves in the face of terrible oppression. Later, when Christianity became the state religion of Rome the church found the idea of Hell a convenient & effective way to control people.
The myth of Hell was graphically detailed by Christian writers, with images of unbelievers being forced to drink boiling water, having their skins ripped off and put back on again, have their eyes put out and put back in.
The myth of Hell was graphically detailed by Christian writers, with images of unbelievers being forced to drink boiling water, having their skins ripped off and put back on again, have their eyes put out and put back in.
For example Cyprian of Carthage says Hell is: "An ever-burning Gehenna and the punishment of being devoured by living flames will consume the condemned; nor will there be any way in which the tormented can ever have respite or be at an end. Souls along with their bodies will be preserved for suffering in unlimited agonies... " [A.D. 252].
And Cyril of Jerusalem said: "If a man is a sinner, he shall receive an eternal body, fitted to endure the penalties of sins, that he may burn eternally in fire, nor ever be consumed... " [A.D. 350].
At the time of Muhammad this very graphic and literal view of Hell was the current view and so it was only natural that this is how he would describe it.
I think we too often misunderstand the words 'revelation' and 'inspiration'. I believe that to a lesser or greater extent we can all be inspired in different ways. How we express this inspiration is determined by our environment, personality & limitations. It's like scooping up water from a gushing river using a small container. No matter how great the river, the container can only carry an amount equal to its capacity. In addition the container's contents will also affect the water. If the container has blue dye, or vinegar or milk or musk etc… then the water will take on those qualities also.
So while inspiration may well come from an a divine source of infinite wisdom, unbound by limitations of human language nor context - it must nevertheless be conveyed through a human being that is of finite wisdom and limited vision. A human being that is bound by the limitations of human language and imagination.
Whatever inspiration Prophet Muhammad received, it had to be expressed though his person, his character and his culture.
This must be borne in mind when reading the Qur'an. They are human words attempting to convey spiritual experiences beyond human language.
With this in mind we can appreciate that the verses about Hell are Muhammad's interpretation of the inspiration he received, interpreted according to the period and culture in which he lived. Human words describing a fictional place based on images current at the time.


No matter what window-dressing you place on your claim that the Quran is not the Revealed Words of Allah, or that Hellfire is a fictional myth, intended only as a cautionary tale - the bottom line is that you disbelieve in the Quran, and inevitably regard the Prophet Muhammad to be a liar for his conveying of the Quran as the Revealed Words of Allah, not as his own words based on “his interpretation of inspiration”. This wholly negates the second half of the First Pillar of Islam: the testimony that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, no matter how hard you try to impress on others that you are still a Muslim…”except one that is ‘Agnostic’, see”.
ReplyDeleteAs Allah instructs His Prophet to tell disbelievers: "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."
Have you not read the verse: {And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the **Words of Allah**.} (9:6)
What of the verses: {Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination. It is not but a revelation revealed.} (53:3-4)
Let’s face the possibilities; assuming the validity of your claims, for argument’s sake, it’s either:
(1) that the Prophet conveniently added in such “verses” to absorb and buffer any questions of authenticity, guaranteeing the blind-following of the more “controversial” verses in the Quran
(2) that these verses are not to be taken literally, as they, like all other verses, represent “interpretations of inspiration”, such that the original “inspiration” from God would have us understand from these verses that…? (You finish the statement.)
Honestly, how do you expect your views to gain traction among devout Muslims when you don't produce any objective evidence for them? How are you to dislodge the Quran as being the inimitable Word of Allah in the hearts and minds of 1.6 billion Muslims, based on unfounded assertions that it is "mere inspiration of interpretation” that is "an attempt to convey spiritual experiences beyond human language"? All you have to offer is a heap of glossy conjecture, here and in the rest of your khutbahs.
{They follow naught but conjecture and the low desires which (their) souls incline to; and certainly the guidance has come to them from their Lord.} (53:23)
{They follow nothing but conjecture; and conjecture avails nothing against Truth.} (53:28)
hell is a metaphor or not? just listen to the people who experience an near death experience... believe or not between them has seen a frightning hell.. so as agnostic muslim, i believe that we live in this little planet call eart just for test for everlasting life. and sure i believe that there will be a judgement day and the judge is the greatest god. becoz every religion told that, not only islam
ReplyDeletevandis, thank you for giving the evidence of life after death. even this will be refuted. that is what god says in quran ,, those who deny, knowingly , like abu jahl who said, I KNOW YOU ARE A TRUE PROPHET BUT I WILL NOT ACCEPT YOU> THEY HAVE CURTAIN ON THEI EYes, they have eyes they see not, they have brains they think not they are like animals, nay worst than animals. even scientific evedince will not open their eyes to the TRUTH. GOD IS ULTIMAT TRUTH. AND THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY TRUTH . DOUBT IS THEIR TRUTH. THEY EVEN DONOT KNOW WHOSE SON THEY ARE< ONLY THEIR MOTHERS EVIDENCE TELL THEM THIS> SO BETTER BELIEVE CHOSEN MESSENGERS OG GOD> THEY BELIEVE IN ELECTRONS < WHICH SCIENTISTS TELL THEM BUT WILL NOT BELIEVE GODS MESSENGERS> just unfortunates,
Delete>BUT WILL NOT BELIEVE GODS MESSENGERS
DeleteI've recently come across some research materials that doubt the existence of jesus and muhammad. Have you read those. The arguments come across as quite strong!
i believ in god only on one argument that some must provide me justice for all injustices done yo me thru my life. accountability is the basis of any society.without fear on one remains straight. therfore , when God taliks of Day of judgemeny one day and reawrd as heaven and punishment as hell it makes more realistic and truthful. doubting fear of accountability and refusing idea of reward and punishment is totally illogical. if accountability is not part of your philosophy, then you cannot give any system on which to organise a socity. all your talk is objections, no positive philosophy how to control human behaviour. It will become free of all. this is also nonsensical to me that you still recite quran , pray to God but will not believe in HIM. is it not contradicory. Doubt is the weapon of SATAN .Please think about it. ASK GOD FOR GUIDANCE AND HE WILL SET YOUR BRAIN FREE FROM SATANIC VIRUSES> I SEE ALL YOUR BRAINS FULL OF SATANIC DOUBT VIRUSES JAMMING ALL TOUR BELIEF IN GOD FILES> I PRAY TO MY AND YOUR GOD TO CLEAR YOUR BRAIN FROM VIRUS>
ReplyDeletewhen you say you are a muslim but doubt about god, quran and prophet, it is like saying to your father, o father i know you are my father but i have doubt your being my father, father says ask your mother say yes he is your father. but doubter says how do i know that you are telling the truth where as i am truth seeker, the mother says you get the dna test done, dna proves that his father is his father, but doubter says, test could be wrong, how do i know that test are hundred percent correct, thae mother says then you are blaming that i am an adulter, so this proves that are an insane who does not believe anyone, not even his parents or scintific advice. so agnostic musliims ar just like this son . god gives then proofs in quran by asking questions about rain who controls it, agnostic wll never agree thay it is gods doing and no one else.
ReplyDeletesecond point why is this khutba only refering to quran and not bible or torah. they have the same concept. this proves the agnostic preachers are christians or jews trying to pollute minds of muslims. satans favourite trick is to create doubt between husband and wife and destroy the house.
do you agnostics have no sense. i invite you to get back to habit of faith and nit doubt like the example of the son
all prophets always preached to believe in one god, creator and they always preached not to believe in things which are created. how come you believe in men who say there is no god. did they ever succeed against prophets? never. wake you blind, dumb and deaf. use your brain. i asked interner does gos exist and saw pro and against arguments. pro god one argument i share. one man said i believe that HE exists by one fact. He created all life support systems before HE created life on earth . Look around and see life supporting systam and you will bow your head infront of HIM in submission as HIS slave. THINK THINK independently and not what the preacer says . HE IS A CHEAT SATAN DISGUISED IN HUMAN .
It is interesting to note that early Judaism originally had no concept of Hell nor an afterlife. The concept of an afterlife was introduced by later rabbinical writers during the Hellenic period borrowing from neighbouring pagan religions. ??
ReplyDeleteAfter being resurrected , the wicked ones being punished will always end in gehinnom eternally. This is simple logic.
Why would Rabbis introduced a belief that has existed even during Noahide times. Where unbelievers during Noahide era will receive punishment in Hell.
Hell is meant for purification.
ReplyDeleteQuite in accordance with the idea of paradise as a place of unending progress to higher stages of life is the idea of hell, where punishment is not meant for torture but for purification, in order to make a man fit for spiritual advancement. The idea underlying hell is that those who wasted their opportunity in this life shall, under the inevitable law which makes every man taste of what he has done, be subjected to a course of treatment for the spiritual diseases which they have brought about with their own hands. It is for this reason that the Holy Qur’ån makes a difference between the abiding in paradise and the abiding in hell, allowing a termination in the latter case but not in the former. As I have already noted, punishment for evil deeds sometimes takes effect in this very life, and the Holy Qur’ån lays down the principle in clear words that every such punishment is a remedial measure: “And We did not send a prophet to a town but We seized its people with distress and affliction that they might humble themselves” (7:94). “And indeed We sent messengers to nations before thee, then We seized them with distress and affliction that they might humble themselves” (6:42).
It is clear from this that God brings down His punishment upon a sinning
people in order that they may turn to Him; in other words, that they may be awakened to the higher life. The same must, therefore, be the object of the punishment in hell. That this is really so is made clear, in the first place, by giving the utmost prominence to the quality of mercy in God, as already pointed out, and then by stating clearly that all men have been created for mercy: “Except those on whom thy Lord has mercy; and for this did He create them” (11:119).
The purpose of God must be ultimately fulfilled and, though man may bring
down punishment on himself by his deeds, yet as God has created him for mercy, mercy is the ultimate end in the Divine scheme. Elsewhere we are told: “And I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should serve Me” (51:56).
They must, therefore, ultimately be made fit for the service of God, and that is
the higher life. With all its fearfulness, hell is called a maulå (patron) of the sinners, in one place (57:15), and their umm (mother), in another (101:9). Both these descriptions of hell are a clear indication that hell is meant only to purify a man of the dross which he has accumulated with his own hands, just as fire purifies gold of dross. In fact, it is to point to this truth that the Holy Qur’ån uses the word fitnah (which originally means the assaying of gold, or casting it into fire to purify it of dross), both of the persecutions which the faithful are made to suffer (2:191; 29:2; 29:10) and of the punishment which the evildoers shall suffer in hell (37:63), where the food which those in hell shall be given is called fitnah, because the object in both cases is the same, the faithful being purified through persecutions and the evildoers by hell-fire. Therefore hell is called a patron of the sinners, because, through suffering, it will make them fit for spiritual progress; and it is called a mother of the sinners to show that its connection with them is that of a mother with her child, the sinners being brought up, as it were, in the bosom of hell. The fire is a source of torment, but it is also a purifier. The keenness of the torments of the other life is due to the keener perception of the soul, which is the necessary result of its separation from the earthly vessel. Bliss and torment, therefore, grow equally keener in that life.
Punishment of hell not everlasting.
ReplyDeleteIt is in consonance with its remedial nature that we find it stated that the sinners shall ultimately be taken out of hell. It is true that the word abad is thrice used in the Holy Qur’ån in connection with the abiding in hell (4:169; 33:65; 72:23), but abad indicates eternity as well as long time, and that the latter significance must be taken in this case is made clear by the use, in the same connection, of the word aƒqåb (78:23), meaning years or long years. Besides this, a limitation is placed on the abiding in hell by the addition of the words except as thy Lord please, the exception clearly indicating the ultimate deliverance of those in hell. The following two verses may be noted in this connection: “He will say: The Fire is your abode — you shall abide therein, except as Allåh please. Surely thy Lord is Wise, Knowing” (6:128). “Then as for those who are unhappy, they will be in the Fire; for them therein will be sighing and groaning — abiding therein so long as the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord please. Surely thy Lord is Doer of what He intends” (11:106, 107).
Both these verses show clearly that the punishment of hell is not everlasting. To
make this conclusion clearer still, the latter of these occasions may be compared with the next verse which describes the abiding in paradise:
“And as for those who are made happy, they will be in the Garden, abiding therein so long as the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord please — a gift never to be cut off” (11:108).
The two expressions are similar: those in hell and those in paradise abide in it
as long as the heavens and the earth endure, with an exception added in each case showing that they may be taken out of it. The concluding statements are, however, different. In the case of paradise, the idea that those in it may be taken out of it, if God pleases, is immediately followed by the statement that it is a gift which shall never be cut off, showing that they shall never be taken out of paradise; while, in the case of hell, the idea of those in it being taken out of it is confirmed by the concluding statement — “Surely thy Lord is Doer of what He intends”. The conclusion drawn above is corroborated by the sayings of the Holy Prophet. Thus a saying reported in the Muslim concludes: “Then will Allåh say, The angels and the prophets and the faithful have all in their turn interceded for the sinners and now there remains none to intercede for them except the Most Merciful of all merciful ones. So He will take out a handful from the Fire and bring out a people who never worked any good” (Ms. 1:72).
Further, Bukhårß records a saying to the effect that, when the sinners are taken
out from hell, they shall be thrown into “the river of life, and they will grow as grows a seed by the side of a river” (B. 2:15), which clearly indicates that they shall be made fit for a higher life. The Kanz al-‘Ummål records the following: “Surely a day will come over hell when it will be like a field of corn that has dried up, after flourishing for a while” (KU, vol. vii, p. 245); “Surely a day will come over hell when there shall not be a single human being in it” (Ibid). A saying of ‘Umar is recorded as follows: “Even if the dwellers in hell may be numberless as the sands of the desert, a day will come when they will be taken out of it” (Fatƒ al-Bayån).